Welcome to the 2017-18 Ride and Glide Season
The first night of class will be Nov 7. We will meet every
Tuesday from Nov 7 through Feb 27 at 6:30 at your respective locations.
- Lake Elmo
- First night will be Introduction and Review of Dryland Training at
Lake Elmo Regional Park 6:30
- Fat/Mtn Bike ride. Meet in Nordic Center Lot 6:30, head over
to West Side at 6:45 (Bring Lights)
- Elm Creek
Everything you need to know about how the
club works can be found below. Please feel free to ask questions if things
are not clear or if I forgot something. There's a lot of information here.
Be sure to read it.
- 6:30 inside the Nordic Center (LE or EC). Please be on
- Before the trails are open for skiing (Dryland) meet outside near
the Nordic Center
- Come in early, stretch, put on your boots, Start with warm feet.
- Head out for work by 6:45. Please come inside, don't wait for us
- We need to get a head count each night before we head out.
Ski passes and Parking.
- Lake Elmo skiers need a Washington Co Parking Pass
- Get one at the Park Office or call 651-430-8370 and it can be
mailed to you
- You also need a
Minnesota Ski Pass
- Elm Creek skiers need a Three Rivers Ski Pass
- Buy one at the park office
- Parking passes are not required
- The Minnesota Ski Pass is not
needed at Elm Creek but if you plan on skiing most any other place in
Minnesota you will need one
- Lake Elmo (Divisions within groups vary each night)
- Classic: Jyneen Thatcher, Sarah Hoban Todd Nesvold
- Skate: Steve Thatcher, Kurt Ware, Peter Dahlberg, Ed
Corazalla, Byron Adams, Randee Edmundson
- Fat Bike: Ken Taillon
- Elm Creek (Divisions within groups vary each night)
- Classic: Ken Tobacman
- Skate: Andrea Potyondy-Smith, Pete Thurmes
- E-mail/web site: E-mail is primary method of communication.
- Expect weekly messages on Monday morning and also late in week about
- When conditions are marginal expect more messages on Monday and Tuesday
as we try to figure out what we'll be doing on Tuesday.
- Web site will have general information each week. It's updated at least
once a week.
- Mailing List :See address on you e-mails
(not listed here for security purposes)
- Note: "Reply All" to a message from this will send your
message to everyone.
- Not a problem if that's what you want. That's what it is for. Use it
to contact all members about activities. (carpooling, workouts,races,
weekend trips, ski buddies).
- Always put R&G or Ride and Glide in the subject so messages don't
get filtered by SPAM software.
- There will be 2 or more e-mails per week from me. Sun/Mon and
- All messages from Me will go to the entire club list as my messages
usually include general info as well as Lake Elmo info
- Should be a daily visit. It changes every day!
- Tells you everything you might want to know about the XC Skiing scene in
the Twin Cities.
- Check it out. Especially the trail condition reports or if you need the
latest info on a race.
- Consider becoming a member to support this great resource.
- There are 16 Tuesday night classes this year. No conflicts with
- You are not expected to attend
every session. We do reviews all the time and you will not miss
- Later in the season we do progress to more advanced topics. We
teach what is needed each night depending on who shows up.
- We will most likely be doing Dryland through the month of November.
Snow by December 5?
- Dryland is important for everyone
- Gets you muscles ready for the snow season
- Trains your muscles in the movements required for skiing
- It can be an excellent workout for the more advanced skiers.
Check out this
dryland video. We will do these. Not as intensely.
- Once on snow you'll know what to do
- If you skip the dryland sessions we'll make you do them anyway once
the snow falls
- Please be sure to attend at least 2 dryland sessions or you'll be
behind when we get on snow.
- Once on snow we'll break you into groups using your initial self
assessment of your ability and work from there
- Given that so few people claim to be beginners the coaches will look
at you and put you with other people of similar ability
Fat/Mtn bike Rides (NEW)
- This year the club is promoting
year-round biking in the form of Fat/Mtn biking in the Fall and Winter and
Road riding in the Spring and Summer.
- The Fall/Winter stuff is
new and results in a year-round club.
- The rides are included in
your skiing membership. You can join just for the rides and it's
- Every Tuesday night there
will be a off-road ride at Lake Elmo at 6:30. It will of course be
dark so bring lights
- Ken Tallion (Ride leader)
has been riding after dark at LE for years and knows his way around the
7 miles of trails
- Other locations may be
possible and once it snows you will need a Fat Bike (wide tires)
Ride and Glide clothing
- If you're interested in clothing I have a selection of sizes and I can
make an order this year. See web site for pictures.
- We have short and longsleeve jerseys, vests, jackets, hats, socks, and
- Drop me an e-mail. email@example.com
- If you need to buy equipment we will have an equipment day at a local
- FinnSisu: Mid-November with good prices available
- Joes Race Night: Nov 14, 6:30)
- Watch e-mails for announcements and wait for these events.
- In the mean time if you need equipment read the articles on the web site
about equipment. It defines skier types and then describes what to buy and
about what it will cost. Feel free to ask questions of any instructor or
e-mail me your questions.
- I recommend FinnSisu for equipment, especially classic skis and Joe's
for wax and clothing.
- Joe's is second choice for equipment as their selection and service
is not as good
- At the event we can talk and determine what you want from your skiing
and determine what equipment is best.
- I can even help you decide classic vs skating. Be sure to read equipment
articles on web site.
- If you go by yourself be careful, they will sell you whatever they can
if its obvious your a beginner.
- I've seen this too many times to count, don't let it happen to you
- The club has some loaner equipment if you'd like to "Try before you Buy"
- You can use them for a week or two and then decide. Contact me
for more info.
- Mostly skate, a few classic
- Roller Skiing: Roller skiing is NOT a part of the club. You do
not need roller skis.
- A core group of skier do roller ski workouts during the Fall before the
- There will be the option for those who have roller skis to ski in
the parking lot during dryland sessions (LE only).
- If you want to try rollerskiing feel free to contact me with
questions. I have several demo pair
Waxing (Yes skis need to be waxed, even waxless ones)
- We will have a wax party sometime after the equipment event. Classic and
- It's at my house in Withrow and we have a potluck lunch afterwards.
- It's a chance to see real skis being waxed and a chance to get hands
- Definitely read the Waxing 101 article on the website for how to wax
and what to buy. Buy your wax at Joe's
- Feel free to ask questions after you read it. Current best guess date is
Nov 19. Watch e-mail announcements
- Special offer
for members who use Paste Wax
- Over the past several years I have promoted a glidewax option for
casual skiers. It involves using pastewax instead of
- It's a much cheaper and simpler approach to waxing. But it
does have a downside in that the performance of your skis will be
degraded a bit
- To alleviate this problem the club will do the yearly "Hotwax" that
is recommended for people who only use pastewax.
- Bring your skis to class and I will take them home and hotwax them.
Or come to the wax party and have it done there.
- I highly recommend you get his done. Your skis will thank you
and you'll be a happier skier when your skis perform better
- Thanksgiving Trip: Leaving Thu evening or Friday morning for
skiing at ABR in the U.P.
- Historically there's always been snow on Thanksgiving in the U.P.
But lately with Global Warming we've had problems.
- The last few years we've actually postponed and gone up 2 weeks
- Last year we actually skied over Thanksgiving and it was OK
- January Trip: Back to ABR and assorted areas in Wisconsin (Birke,
Blue Hills, etc) (Weekend after New Years)
- E-mail for more info and to indicate your interest in either of these
trips. ASAP they do fill up
- Racing/Touring Popular events
- City of Lakes Race or Tour. Local and convenient. The
Tour is low key
- The Seeley Classic. Excellent classic race
- Birke Tour. Good way to experience the Birke trail in a low key
environment. Many members participate.
- The Vasaloppet and the famous downtown finish and it's flat.
Recommended first race
- The Birke. The Big Dog. 30+ members every year
- Racers are a boisterous group and tend to demand a lot of
attention. Don't let that intimidate you. We are not a racing
club. You can train a lot and be serious about your skiing and you don't
have to race. Just enjoy being a good skier.
- Random, Informal ski outings at local ski areas. Watch
- A lot of us ski every chance
we get with the short Minnesota season
- No instruction, just skiing with club members
- Weekend rollerskiing workouts until it snows
- FatBike demos the 2nd Saturday of each month at Lake Elmo
- FatBike Demo long rides each Sunday morning lead by Now Bikes.
See our website
- For dryland we'll have just a few groups.
- Classic and skate beginner and non-beginner and workout.
- Once on snow the coaches will check out your form and make sure you're
in the right ski grou
- For dryland (ski imitation) you should dress for moderate workout
in the predicted temps for the evening.
- Hiking/running shoes. Gloves and short poles (mid chest) I have some to
- Water bottle and carrier is also a good idea.
- We can teach you the motions
better on grass and shoes than on slippery snow and skis, so don't skip
class just because we don't have snow. You'll be in much better shape
for skiing once we get skiable snow, which historically is by Nov 22nd.
Be sure to make at least 2 nights of dryland especially you beginners.
If you want to get better add more dryland to your regimen.
- Getting better: Get out and practice, watch videos on Youtube.
- You won't get significantly better on class night. You improve when
you’re out practicing on your own
- HED - 20% discount on Hed Products. Spring and Fall Team
purchase. Requires buying a R&G jersey
- FinnSisu - We get High School package prices on individual equipment
items. This is you "Local Ski Shop" They will take good care of
- Rudy Project - We get 50% off. Check with me for ordering
instructions. Helmets, Glasses, RX too. Free scratch replacement
- Fast Wax - A local wax producer. We use a lot of their products
and they provide wax for our events
- The club will supply you with ClifShot gels for your racing. We
get a good price on them an I give them away.